Dick Elmendorf writes:
I
have a question about one thing in your How Big Is the Universe
piece (BA #64, p. 10, Spring 1993).
You state flatly that
the Bible teaches that the universe is
expanding, and you give nine references to back up that assertion, I cannot
see how those verses furnish an unequivocal authority for such an
idea.
All but four of the verses are past tense (stretched out), so could
only refer to an expanded universe, if that is meant at all. Ps 104:2 has
the phrase
stretcheth out the heavens like a curtain, and surely a curtain
does not imply something continually stretching, at least not necessarily.
Isaiah 44:24 combines
maketh all things with
stretcheth
forth, and certainly God is not still making all things like the
evolutionists claim, so the stretcheth forth would imply a past creative
act, too. The same reasoning applies to Zech 12:1. Also in Isaiah 44:24,
surely the earth is not now spreading abroad is it? Isaiah 40:22 again
combines the idea of a curtain like Ps 104:2.
Response
I agree that the present-tense passages talking about the expanding
heavens apply either to the creation event or to a future event. Still, my
argument that an infinite universe could not exhibit expansion holds.
Neither could an infinite universe be created by expansion for the
expansion rate would have to be infinite which means that the concept
of expansion is nonsense. The past tense terms, when contrasted with the
present-tense ones, could also indicate that God actively expanded the
universe at the creation but that it is now coasting. I guess I may be
over reacting to what I see as a knee-jerk reaction by creationists against
an expanding universe as if it were anti-biblical. It could also be argued
that if the heavens were stretched out like a curtain that then there are
folds in space and that could lend support to bends in the space-time
continuum. Now there's something to think about. The Nebular Hypothesis
Could you give me some information on the Nebular Hypothesis
about the origin of the solar system?
You may already know this, but originally Laplace borrowed the
nebular hypothesis from Immanuel Swedenborg who received it from the
inhabitants of the moon and Mars during a seance. Laplace put some
equations to it to give it respectability and the rest is history. The
problem with the theory is that once the gas and dust cloud collapses to a
certain point, the heat radiated from the central protostar causes the
cloud to disrupt before planets can be formed. Theoretically, half of the
energy gained during the collapse goes into heat and the other half goes
into angular momentum. (This is called mechanical equilibrium.) If I
were you I would not hit the angular momentum problem head on; instead,
I would home in on the fact that according to the collapsing cloud
theory, there should be no planets around any star, at least, not as observed.
Similarly the collapse of a galaxy from a cloud is also interrupted by
the emission of radiation from its center, long before the center is dense
enough to form stars.
As for the solar wind, I have not seen any numbers to support Page's
claim of stars aging because of mass loss by blowing mass off into
space as a stellar wind. Observationally, hot, massive, young, stars are
seen to rotate quite rapidly and it has been supposed that they have no
planets as a result. Once one gets to spectral types F and K (a bit hotter
and more massive than the sun) they suddenly show a marked drop in
rotation speed. Personally, given the sudden drop, I don't see how
aging via a stellar wind fits in with observation.
Response to a Question About Geostationary Satellites
The critic you mentioned is comparing the proverbial apples and
oranges. In the first case he says that the satellite orbits the earth, but he
only knows this because he can see the rest of the universe and the rotation
appears to take place against that backdrop. In his imagined
geocentric perspective, he has either thrown away the rest of the universe
or else assumed that there was no relative rotation of universe and earth
(that is, that the same stars would always be overhead at a given point on
the earth). In the former of the critic's imagined perspectives, if only the
earth and satellite existed, any notion of rotation or revolution would be
meaningless. The latter is clearly not equivalent to the true state of affairs.
The key to understanding the geostationary satellite in both the
geocentric and heliocentric models is the presence of the universe. One
might answer that if the geocentrists's faith holds up the stationary satellite,
that then the heliocentrists' faith creates the universe.
Response to a Question On Quantum Mechanics
Thank you for your letter of 12 August with the enclosed review by
Harpainter. I find a general misconception among scientists of all persuasions
with the quantum theory. There is a Biblical basis for quantum
mechanics simply because the universe is finite. This allows for two
realities. One applies only to the creation and it is allowed to be discrete
(non-continuous) without violating either the sovereignty of God or
his existence. The other, superior reality, is an uncreated existence, embodied
by God himself, which need not be susceptible to physical
measurement. Most scientists equate the two and don't see the distinction.
In short, the creation may exhibit quantum mechanical effects, but
God cannot. To equate the two is a type of pantheism.
I don't know if that clears up anything, but it is my understanding of
this little-understood, highly mathematical field. What I'm saying is that
God's nature is different from the universe's nature because the former is
uncreated whereas the latter is created, and never the twain shall meet
save in the body of Jesus Christ, and then only because he is the truth, the
way and the life.
Helium3 Abundance and the Earth's Atmosphere
In your article and letter you mention that the paucity of Helium is
evidence for a young earth. It is my understanding that it is not a paucity
but an overabundance of the He3 (Helium atoms with two protons and
one neutron) isotope when compared with He4 (which have two protons
and two neutrons). In the introductory course in astronomy at the University
of Rochester we were shown that He3 should escape from the earth
into space faster than He4, and as a result, over the earth's alleged 4.5 billion
years, almost all of the He3 should be gone: but it isn't. The escape
of helium into the air from gas and oil wells cannot account for the
aberrant ratio, and hence there is an overabundance of He3 in the
earth's atmosphere. This has led some scientists to suggest that the
He3/He4 ratio was reset by a gigantic solar flare about 25,000 years
ago. These scientists even saw the presence of glass in the bottom of
lunar craters as evidence for such an event. As for the glass, it was noted
by several of the Apollo moon missions and was of such a nature that it
could not have survived on the moon for more than about 25,000 years:
more evidence that the moon is young, for such a flare bright enough to
form the glass on the moon would have done major damage to life on
earth. No one speaks of the glass anymore. I wonder why
.
Cox on Newton Predictably, Douglas Cox did not like my article in issue number 65,
page 11, (Summer 1993) which dealt with his theory that the firmament
is the crust of the earth and that Antiochus Epiphanes corrupted the Bible
so that people would never be able to recognize that the firmament was
not heaven but the earth's crust. Cox maintained that Newton's discovery
of his three laws (which are actually one, see The Geocentric
Papers) cleansed the heavenly sanctuary of Antiochus' corruption so that
now we see clearly that the firmament is the crust of the earth and that we
should convene a new translating committee to correct the Bibles and
versions corrupted by Antiochus. (This latter is my statement of the affairs,
not Cox's.) Since Cox's letter is very long, and since he
copyrighted it, I'll not reproduce it here. I'll just paraphrase the highlights.
Cox claims that I'm dead wrong in assuming that God would preserve
the Bible free of corruptions, even through translations. Cox maintains
that God preserved it by hiding the truth between the lines in the original
text [which no one living has ever seen or handled, so how do we know
what was in it?] where people like Cox can cut through the corrupters'
noise to recover the lost or hidden truth. Furthermore, Cox maintains that
I am wrong in claiming that Antiochus corrupted the book of Daniel since
that's were Cox found the truth. No, I'm not wrong, for Antiochus
would have to have corrupted the meaning of the Hebrew tamiyd from
continual to daily sacrifice, otherwise, why would more than two millennia
of Jews and Christians have missed the truth?
Cox maintains that in Psalm 12:6-7 the word of the Lord is compared
to silver refined seven times and that could not be the preservation of the
Bible since the Word of the Lord does not need refining. True enough,
but the passage says words of the Lord, not word. What is referred to
here is the refinement of the language into which the words of the Lord
are being poured, not his word. Hence there are seven translations of the
Bible into English culminating with the King James Bible, which is the
Bible.
Of course, since I do not go along with Cox's claims, God's Spirit
does not enlighten me; I am foolish because I refuse to remove a great
stumbling block; I refuse to believe or appreciate the truth; I love darkness
instead of light; I am arrogant because I think no one can figure out
stars being cast to the earth in Daniel 8 (and Revelation 12, I might add);
I think God is a dimwit because I expect him to say what he means and
mean what he says; I don't believe that at times a year can stand for a day
in the Bible; mine are all lame objections, Cox deals only with proven
facts; I don't appreciate that since silver tarnishes, God's word [sic] can
also tarnish as per Psalm 12:6-7 [see above]; I'm too stupid to realize that
there are errors in the KJV, for I John 5:7 doesn't belong in the Bible because
it is not in any Greek manuscripts but, instead, came from late
copies of the Latin where it was added to support the flagging doctrine of
the Trinity;1 praise be that Newton, the cleanser of the heavenly temple,
confirmed his Unitarianism as a result; I am a legalist of the
circumcision faction; and Christians who promote geocentricity rely on
statements now identified, thanks to Cox, as corruptions. I also don't
know that geocentricity is absolutely disproven my modern science. Hey,
all you physicists who are experts in relativity and cosmology out there,
did you know that that heliocentrism has been absolutely proven? I'll bet
you didn't. My University professors certainly didn't, either. But take
heart, fellows and gals, you now have it on no less an authority than
Douglas E. Cox that God is on your side and that you can go back to absolute
space and time.
One thing is clear, Cox cannot read; for he evidently did not read my
article, has not read any advanced physics texts or even some of the
deeper history of astronomy books, and he certainly overlooks the
presence of s's at the end of words in the Bible. I repeat (actually, I'm
stealing this from Peter Ruckman), when a man messes with the Bible,
God messes with his mind. Thank you, Lord, for mine enemies: they
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